Meirelles e os Copa 5 – O Novo Som (1965)

1 08 2011

Link original: Meirelles e os Copa 5 – O Novo Som (1965)
Publicado em: Monday, July 03, 2006 by zecalouro

The second release by sax player JT Meirelles and his legendary Copa 5 – remember Copa 5, a breathtaking quintet that featured Eumir Deodato on piano, Edison Machado on drums, Roberto Menescal on guitar, Manoel Gusmao on bass, and Waltel Branco on electric guitar. The trackspick up from the brilliance of the group’s first album — mixing bossa nova with Americanhardbop styles, soloing majestically with a skill that you’ll find in few other Brazilian groups of the time. The album’s a winner both for fans of jazz and Brazilian rhythms.

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Este disco pode ser buscado no Parallel Realities.

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Edit by 300 discos: depois de muita conversa (ver comentários) conseguimos chegar à conclusão de qual seria a capa original deste disco, que é a apresentada acima. A questão foi levantada pelo AD a partir da capa vermelha abaixo, que concluímos ser apenas a cobertura de papelão do CD. A outra capa na sequência, parecida com a original, é a capa do lançamento do disco em CD, pois apresenta uma faixa bônus que não existia no LP: “O Barquinho”, gravada após o lançamento do LP. Maiores detalhes, consulte os comentários deste post.

                     

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1 08 2011
300discos

Comentários originais:
primocoe on Wednesday, 09 January, 2008
Track list for Meirelles & Copa 5 O Novo Som follows-

01 O Novo Som (João Theodoro Meirelles)
02 Você (Roberto Menescal/Ronaldo Bôscoli)
03 Samba do Carioca (Carlos Lyra/Vinícius de Moraes)
04 Preciso Aprender a Ser Só (Paulo Sérgio Valle/Marcos Valle)
05 Serelepe (João Theodoro Meirelles)
06 Balanço Zona Sul (Tito Madi)
07 Pensativa (Clare Fisher)
08 Solo (João Theodoro Meirelles)
09 Ela é Carioca (AC Jobim/Vinícius de Moraes)
10 Diz Que Fui Por Aí (Zé Keti/Hortênsio Rocha)
11 Samba de verão (Paulo Sérgio Valle/Marcos Valle)
12 O Barquinho [bonus track] (Roberto Menescal/Ronaldo Bôscoli)

2 08 2011
AD

I knew that this brilliant album has originally been released with one very nice cover by Paulo Brèves in two slightly different variations, both with b/w photographs and red squares on white background. But this cover is completely new to me. The graphic is very similar to the group’s first album ‘O Som’ (Philips P 632.184 L).

Do you know the catalogue number of this release? It’s not printed on the front. ‘O Nôvo Som’ was filed Philips P 632.194 L.

By the way:
According to Instituto Memória Musical Brasileira ‘O Som’ was released in 1963 followed by ‘O Nôvo Som’ in 1964. ‘O Barquinho’ is not a bonus as it was included in the original album.

Thanks
AD

2 08 2011
300discos

Interesting question AD. The best information I’ve gotten on this album is in “Discos do Brasil”, http://discosdobrasil.com.br/discosdobrasil/consulta/detalhe.php?Id_Disco=DI03286 . There you can see that “O Barquinho” (Faixa 12) was produced by Joachim E. Berendt and recorded in Germany, in 14 november, 1966 – that is, after “O Novo Som” release. So, its name could not be in the front cover of the original LP (as it is in the version of the cover presented in Discos do Brasil and Instituto Memória Musical). A CD was released in Brazil by Dubas Disc in 2001. Is that the cover of the CD, which included the bonus track? As I don’t have the LP nor the CD I don’t have a definitive answer. I hope that some of the visitors of this blog could help us.

By the way, the musicians in “O Barquinho” are different from the original Meirelles & Os Copa 5 formation. They are:

Chico Batera : Bateria
Dom Salvador : Piano
J. T. Meirelles : Flauta
Sérgio Barrozo : Contrabaixo

Abraços,

2 08 2011
300discos

So that people can follow this conversation, I will put the other cover in the post too.

3 08 2011
AD

Well, shame on me… On the one hand I compiled a book about record covers from Brazil, and on the other hand I am asking questions without checking my archive beforehand 🙂

I found the back cover of the black/white/red version in my picture files and you are absolutely right: ‘O Barquinho’ was not part of the original album. Presumably, the orginal cover was used for the rerelease on CD with the bonus title added to the track listing on the front.

Still, the cover in plain red remains somewhat mysterious to me. It would be interesting if somebody could solve this collector’s issue. So, you readers out there: help!

Thanks
AD

3 08 2011
300discos

I’ve got this cover in Hasta la Vista Baby blog, which is run by Juliana. I asked Juliana about the cover, but still do not have an answer.

In the meantime I found the original LP cover (with different photos and without “O Barquinho”) and back in LPs Brasil: http://lpsbrazil.blogspot.com/2010/07/meirelles-e-os-copa-5.html and 2 different CD covers in Mercado Livre: http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-192882131-cd-meirelles-e-os-copa-5-o-novo-som-1965-lacrado-_JM .
and http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-189679409-cd-meirelles-e-os-copa-5-o-novo-som-_JM which is the red one! I think that it is part of the 3 CD box that was released, but I am not sure : http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-188930572-j-t-meirelles-e-os-copa-5-box-3-cds-lacrado-bossa-nova-_JM

4 08 2011
AD

I am sure, you solved the mystery!
The picture on http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-189679409-cd-meirelles-e-os-copa-5-o-novo-som-_JM definitely shows the red cover as a kind of paper slipcase for the CD rerelase, propably to create a ‘deluxe’ feeling. I don’t think it’s part of the 3 CD box as they usually come in a single box with three trays, Besides, the designs do not match.
The conclusion seems clear to me: the red/black/white cover for the 11-track album is the only original one from the sixties. All others are CD covers.

Congratulations!
AD

4 08 2011
300discos

Well, I think you deserve the congratulations! I have not realized it was a paper slipcase: you are right. I will change the post, putting the original cover as the one for this LP and mantaining the other 2 at its end.

Best regards,

21 10 2011
jamz8

O link “Hasta Luego Baby” parece nao funcionar
Abraço
James
Desculpe minhas varias mensagens mas eu em fim tenho tempo para navigar nos “orfaos”

21 10 2011
300discos

Olá James, este está funcionando. Testei agora e baixou sem problemas, deve ter sido um problema temporário.

E não tenho nada o que desculpar, só agradecer, pois você indicando o que está com problemas permite que a gente faça a manutenção dos links, o que não faríamos sem os avisos.

Abraços,

22 10 2011
jamz8

Ola, era meu internet que nao funcionou, agora eu consegui ir no site
Agradeço muito pelo seu trabalho, abraço

2 12 2012
Miguel

Sobre o Barquinho:

Eu tenho o CD da Dubas, não tenho o LP.

No CD há duas menções explícitas a esta faixa, as quais reproduzo a seguir:

O BARQUINHO – Outra composição de Menescal, nesta gravação feita um ano mais tarde na Alemanha, durante uma turnê européia. O piano aqui é de Dom Salvador, e o solo é de flauta.”

Em outra parte do encarte há o seguinte:

“O Barquinho”

Produzida por / Produced by Joachim E. Berendt
Gravada em 14 de novembro de 1966 em Villigen, Alemanha.
Recorded on November 14, 1966 in Villingen, Germany.

Notar que o nome da da cidade na Alemanha, onde “O Barquinho” foi gravado, aparece no encarte com duas grafias diferentes.

2 12 2012
AD

The name of the town was Villingen at that time, today it’s called Villingen-Schwenningen. So, it’s just a mistake in writing in the first credit.

At first, I thought why on earth did these musicians a recording session in such a small town in the middle of nowhere.

But Joachim-Ernst Berendt was a renowned jazz music journalist and producer, working more than forty years for the prominent radio broadcasting ‘Südwestfunk’ in Baden-Baden. Knowing this, it makes sense as both towns are located on the opposite sides of the beautiful Black Forest (close to France and Switzerland).

Due to the date and place, the musicians presumably recorded the song while looking at this hilly landscape with fir trees heavily covered with snow – which is a quite amusing scenery for this song.

Regards
AD

2 12 2012
Miguel

Thanks AD for your complements about Villingen.

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